tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post658591407018794181..comments2024-03-29T08:55:28.072-06:00Comments on Hiawatha House: ClubberRedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17996243850279671523noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-79581374004655200662015-03-21T14:17:05.685-06:002015-03-21T14:17:05.685-06:00So sad indeed. My best friends son. He was a nice...So sad indeed. My best friends son. He was a nice guy. <br />At least everyone thought. Then three years ago. My own son phones me. Mom did you read the newspaper or watch T.V. the other night. I said no. Aundrea has been shot. Apparently gang related. For him. He is dead. So I feel like you. Wasted. He was only 47. So I guess he was not the kid we all thought. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-82511128132551896662015-03-21T04:56:47.579-06:002015-03-21T04:56:47.579-06:00So sad, but I guess you might have been able to se...So sad, but I guess you might have been able to see that coming. It does make me wonder what exactly was going on at home...Knatoleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03809822081515082096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-76426745334018410772015-03-15T00:19:49.911-06:002015-03-15T00:19:49.911-06:00I was hoping there would be happier ending. I had...I was hoping there would be happier ending. I had a student like that who had be held back in then put in my room. I felt terrible for him. Our custodian (who lived in the same neighborhood) once referred to him as a "toe tag" kid. I didn't know what he meant. He had to explain that he would have a short life. Last I heard, he'd ended up in jail too. Sigh...Kayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07461569436322815787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-70148527309069871462015-03-14T13:35:40.294-06:002015-03-14T13:35:40.294-06:00Sad of course. I believe that kids at young age be...Sad of course. I believe that kids at young age behaving inappropriately should be helped. It is very difficult to say though, I am not a parent and I do not know how it is to raise problematic kids. <br /><br />I had a classmate in high school. He was fine, quite small, not the best student but also not the one whom you'll find from the guidance office often. We were not friends but we hanged out with the same group few times. But once I was having jail apostolate, I found him there. He was convicted with murder but he said he was just protecting his family when the assaulter came by. It is simply sad, really sad. I couldn't have helped him in any way. In our apostolate, we were only providing counseling. <br />psychelynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481182811314917401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-53495161388343264832015-03-13T15:45:29.712-06:002015-03-13T15:45:29.712-06:00I have to say as an 'old teacher' I myself...I have to say as an 'old teacher' I myself never claimed to know it all and still don't but just because a parent gave up didn't mean I had to. I have to think in some instances I made a difference however big or small. Carlettahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11178161514195582965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-73329324359484137372015-03-13T06:52:11.653-06:002015-03-13T06:52:11.653-06:00Red, you are so right. I often wondered ... Teache...Red, you are so right. I often wondered ... Teachers, of all people, should begin to realize how much they DON'T know. Sadly, many never do and think they know it all. John's Islandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03618219887687125402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-82673033869461795552015-03-12T21:13:09.445-06:002015-03-12T21:13:09.445-06:00Unfortunately , you are so right.Unfortunately , you are so right.Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996243850279671523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-23767283032496417602015-03-12T21:12:40.406-06:002015-03-12T21:12:40.406-06:00There are many variables in each life.There are many variables in each life.Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996243850279671523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-18017208483542044012015-03-12T21:11:47.997-06:002015-03-12T21:11:47.997-06:00He seemed programmed for only bad stuff.He seemed programmed for only bad stuff.Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996243850279671523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-31846656983837815522015-03-12T21:11:19.035-06:002015-03-12T21:11:19.035-06:00You've got it right. There are a lot of variab...You've got it right. There are a lot of variables.Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996243850279671523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-43453986367840233572015-03-12T20:52:11.553-06:002015-03-12T20:52:11.553-06:00Those are strong words coming from and old teacher...Those are strong words coming from and old teacher but I have to agree with you. Teachers aren't half a smart as they think they are.Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996243850279671523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-3564994051363692172015-03-12T20:50:41.926-06:002015-03-12T20:50:41.926-06:00These guys are still around today. We still haven&...These guys are still around today. We still haven't got it right when it comes to bullies.Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996243850279671523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-47585095377791484322015-03-12T20:49:36.294-06:002015-03-12T20:49:36.294-06:00He was so quiet you didn't know what was going...He was so quiet you didn't know what was going on.Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996243850279671523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-18229750877031938962015-03-12T20:48:59.883-06:002015-03-12T20:48:59.883-06:00His home was safe but I don't think they had t...His home was safe but I don't think they had too much time for him.Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996243850279671523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-66854106996411955242015-03-12T20:48:20.768-06:002015-03-12T20:48:20.768-06:00You too eh? I made some of those deals too. You ha...You too eh? I made some of those deals too. You had to play your cards carefully or you could get in some problems later.Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996243850279671523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-77806384059174253082015-03-12T20:46:56.835-06:002015-03-12T20:46:56.835-06:00You're right. If you get on the wrong tack it&...You're right. If you get on the wrong tack it's difficult to turn things around.Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996243850279671523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-23346405029431638882015-03-12T20:45:57.839-06:002015-03-12T20:45:57.839-06:00I knew his parents and there was no obvious proble...I knew his parents and there was no obvious problem there.Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996243850279671523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-31919409174627555712015-03-12T20:45:28.107-06:002015-03-12T20:45:28.107-06:00I hope that his life turned around. He's one o...I hope that his life turned around. He's one of the few crooks i taught in my 37 years.Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996243850279671523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-80515711610572278002015-03-12T20:44:29.716-06:002015-03-12T20:44:29.716-06:00You're right. They are in the population unfor...You're right. They are in the population unfortunately.Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996243850279671523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-25903285278590887082015-03-12T14:45:49.513-06:002015-03-12T14:45:49.513-06:00I had a student like this. He was a gang member. A...I had a student like this. He was a gang member. A miserable thing. Taller than I am, he was a big, bully. As I recall he was from a good home, but liked to play the big bad white dude. I loathed him! He stole kids dance money one day. I would have called in the cops..Jenn Jilkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05259681360456905055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-27331850724160593762015-03-12T09:04:42.571-06:002015-03-12T09:04:42.571-06:00I think we've all known someone like that at s...I think we've all known someone like that at some point.William Kendallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00331324250821836822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-82413429429146518232015-03-12T07:13:39.667-06:002015-03-12T07:13:39.667-06:00I was hoping this story would have a better ending...I was hoping this story would have a better ending. Kids are not naturally bad, something went wrong in his life somewhere early.Taborhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15257045780724471840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-2055189672221906762015-03-12T06:32:43.276-06:002015-03-12T06:32:43.276-06:00sad he never learned to make good decisionssad he never learned to make good decisionsOut on the prairiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09548162534362532705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-50514644111613667102015-03-12T06:22:50.790-06:002015-03-12T06:22:50.790-06:00It makes me wonder how much of it was inherent and...It makes me wonder how much of it was inherent and how much could have been changed with counseling. It sure makes me sad, though, that some people seemed destined for a life of crime from such a young age. :-(DJanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07152183871573797791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8688207620251526295.post-64992575279841570782015-03-12T05:31:36.275-06:002015-03-12T05:31:36.275-06:00Hi Red, I had a couple of students like Clubber in...Hi Red, I had a couple of students like Clubber in my classes. My classes were high school level and it seemed like the parents of the Clubber types had pretty much given up on those kids by the time they got to high school. In my opinion, when we try to evaluate how kids turn out in life, parenting is more important than schooling. JohnJohn's Islandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03618219887687125402noreply@blogger.com