Wednesday, December 30, 2020

Gottlieb Klein

        Our family origin is from the Germans who went to Russia in the 1700's.

        During he 1700's economic and government conditions were very poor in Germany. They had the Seven Years war which had created much economic and social chaos. Security was limited. There was no central government. 

      Along came an offer many Germans could not refuse. Catherine II of Russia invited Germans to areas of Russia that were sparsely populated. Her idea was that these areas could be settled and developed. The Germans were given free land, self government, could keep their own language and religion, were given loans that were forgiven , no military service as they were pacifist and could leave Russia at any time.

      We don't know when the Klein family left Germany. They were the Germans who settled on the Volga. 

       All went fairly smoothly for about 100 years. They became successful farmers and traders. There were some problems. Marauders robbed them from time to time. Crops were not always successful.

      These people were peasants. They were given about 40 acres of land. Most of the work was done by hand. Some people had a horse that was used by several farmers. They had some farm animals. They grew crops , vegetables and some fruit. 

      Their houses were built of clay and probably had a thatched roof. They had dirt floors. These houses were warm in the winter and cool in the summer. 

     They had very little money . They were able to sell some of their produce but most of it they used for themselves. They milled flour from their grain. They grew many vegetables. They grew lots of cabbage that was turned into sauerkraut as this would keep for the year. So some people had businesses as in milling grain. Leather was produced and used to make their shoes. Wool was spun and some weaving was done. Very little was bought. 

    They were happy with this life. After Catherine II they gradually lost some of the rights they were first given. They first lost some of their independent government. Things were slowly taken away. My Grandfather was in the Russian army for two years. 

    Many Germans came to North America starting in the 1870's . Our family began coming to America in the late 1890's. Grandfather Gottlieb was born in the 1840's and brought all his adult children to America. Gottlieb had three daughters and four sons  who were all married. Gottlieb was about 60 when he came here so some of his grandchildren were also married. Over a period of ten years the whole family left Russia. They came to Manitoba , Canada and North Dakota . USA. Mennonites had given them some aid to make the trip to America. So when they first came some of the Kleins worked on farms to payoff their loans.

     Borders were not big deals in those days as some of them lived in Canada and some in the USA. Some of them lived at Neche North Dakota and some at Gretna Manitoba.

To be continued...

    

40 comments:

  1. My mums family migrated to New Zealand from Norway under a similar scheme...that was in the late 1800s.
    Many of us probably have these kinds of back story...I wonder how many will come out on this post?

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    1. There is a very rich history of our ancestors which we don't value.

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  2. I don't know a lot about my family history. The stories that I knew, and accepted as fact are proven as complete fabrications by the work that my cousin and daughter have done. It is hard to know how and why these stories took root and became accepted as truth. The only thing that I know was true is that my great grandmother was from Sweden.

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    1. Yes we have to be careful what we accept.

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  3. You have some excellent family history here. I am looking forward to hearing more.

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    1. People before me have worked very hard to put the story together.

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  4. Interesting how people get about. My ancestors on my father's side came from France - one of them came to the UK as a prisoner of war, the last time the UK fought France. In those days, POWs were found digs, given half pay and told not to run away, apparently. He didn't.

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  5. Hello,

    MY family ancestors came from all over, Germany, Netherlands and Ireland. We would not be here if they had closed the borders back in those days. I wish you all the best in 2021, a happy and healthy New Year.

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    1. There was much less red tape at that time.

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  6. This is very interesting. Most of us don't know nearly as much about our heritages.

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  7. That is very nice to read this history about your family. People have always migrated over the world and still do to find a better place.

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    1. People move for conditions that will give them a better life.

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  8. I love reading this history of your family roots in Germany and then Russia. My father's family came from Hungary to America in the 1890s. Sometimes I try to imagine what it would have been like to make such a big move back then.

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    1. Some stories are heartbreaking as when families were split up they knew they'd never see each other again.

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  9. Hi Red, For years I have been interested in the Mennonites in Canada and northern parts of USA. The life style fascinates me. They have figured out how to be very self-sufficient. I have learned a lot about Mennonites by watching YouTube videos. If you haven't seen it, you might enjoy a documentary produced by German public broadcast service at this link on YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt_XU4W4DBA

    I am curious if any of your Klein relatives are still living in one of the self-sufficient Mennonite colonies. Thanks for sharing more of your family history. Happy New Year to you and the Micro Manager. John

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    1. Mennonites? Where do I start. There are many types of Mennonite. Where I was raised it was about 50% Mennonite. They were neighbors and we went to school together. My brother married a Mennonite. So you have a modern group and then those who live a communal life. I was the only non Mennonite in my high school class.

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  10. Interesting! I never knew there was a migration of Germans to Russia in the time of Catherine the Great. I knew many Germans and Scandinavians came to the northern Great Plains but I didn't realize some did so by way of Russia!

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    1. There was a large Mennonite population in Kansas and Oklahoma. Some moved to where I lived in Saskatchewan.

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  11. I wonder what your ancestors would think if they could come and see your family now?! All the gadgets and luxuries we have compared to the hard life they lived. They must have been tired all of the time! Working so hard to stay alive.
    It is great that you have your family history to share. Thanks, Red, and Happy New Year!

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    1. You see what is going to be covered later on.

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  12. It’s interesting to read your family’s history. Happy New Year, Red!

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  13. A wonderful read, Red. Your family history is so interesting. Thanks for sharing.

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    1. They had to be good stuff to put up with what they did. we are the beneficiaries of their challenging times.

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  14. That is fascinating and is part of social history that I suspect very few people know about.

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    1. Social history, family history and geneology are my interests.

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  15. Thank you for giving me such a great history lesson. I look forward to much more from you, learning about your ancestors. :-)

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    1. Interesting how events influenced people's lives.

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  16. To be continued...yay. We're all immigrants and love all the stories.

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    1. Sadly many of the stories have been lost.

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  17. Interesting family history. I sometimes wonder if I could have handled the hardships of every day life that our ancestors endured.

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  18. Very Interesting Red! I look forward to more:: Happy New Year!

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  19. Borders are now a very big deal, sadly.

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  20. Fascinating family history! Always fun to read stuff like this. Looking forward to more.

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  21. I love hearing these stories. Such a rich heritage!

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  22. The courage and determination of those early immigrants to a new land is absolutely amazing. What a treasure of a family history you have.

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  23. i am thankful for not missing this beautiful family story
    how amazing that you learnt how your grandfather moved from Germany to live in Canada ,yes clay houses were so serene and easy to live in both extreme seasons ,when people started to build brick houses they would still keep one clay room until some years back but now my whole village has cement and brick houses and i still want one clay house to feel same way :)
    i wish borders could stay still "not big deal" their intense strictness has turned the distance into horrible thing

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